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mike - (9 posts)	Feb-13-02, 09:00 PM (EST)
"on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
HI HOW DO I KNOW THAT RS LOGIX 500 IS CAPABLE OF ON LINE PROGRAMMING. DOES IT MEAN THAT THERE ARE TWO TYPE OF RS LOGIX 500 SOFTWARE HAVING DIFFERENT PRICE AND DIFFERNT FUNCTIONS. THANKS MIKE
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RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., rsdoran, Feb-13-02, (1) RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., operaghost, Feb-13-02, (2) RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., Bernie Carlton, Feb-13-02, (3) RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., rsdoran, Feb-13-02, (4) RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., operaghost, Feb-14-02, (5) RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., TimothyMoulder, Feb-14-02, (6) RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., Ray Kissane, Feb-14-02, (7) RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., Ken Roach, Feb-14-02, (9) RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., Ken Roach, Feb-15-02, (12) RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., Eddie Willers, Feb-14-02, (8) RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., operaghost, Feb-14-02, (10) RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 50..., Alan Case, Feb-15-02, (11)

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rsdoran - (445 posts)	Feb-13-02, 09:40 PM (EST)
1. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
Any ALLEN BRADLEY/ROCKWELL software can program ONLINE, the issue will be is it capable of doing it OFFLINE. Allen Bradley offers OEM the right/ability to give out ONLINE only versions of their software, for editing the existing program on their machine. That way you cant use to create another program OFFLINE for another system. If you purchase RSLogix, which has different prices according to the plc model you need, then it will work online. NOTE RSLogix has 3 main versions...RSLogix 5, RSLogix 500, RSLogix5000...5 is for PLC 5, 500 for Micrologix and SLC 500, 5000 for Controllogix. There is a package that includes all 3, but there are also different levels involved...each with own price. NOTE: before you buy any version of RSLogix though and return here, I suggest you learn what that key to left of A is for.
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	operaghost - (2 posts)	Feb-13-02, 10:18 PM (EST)
	2. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
	>> NOTE: before you buy any version of RSLogix though and return >> here, I suggest you learn what that key to left of A is for (laughing) I just love that! Well said rsdoran! OG
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	Bernie Carlton - (62 posts)	Feb-13-02, 10:57 PM (EST)
	3. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
	Regarding the 'OEM's right/ability to give out ONLINE versions of their software', what is this called? We are an OEM using a lot of AB stuff and have never heard of this. Can you clue me in?
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	rsdoran - (445 posts)	Feb-13-02, 11:29 PM (EST)
	4. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
	Bernie I can not state how it works with RSLogix but with 6200 I have gotten as a customer and sent out as an OEM that way. I did have the website for that but havent used in awhile...will look tomorrow for more info when at work. This may be something to discuss with your AB/distributor rep. Its a low cost solution to provide software to customers. To tell the truth I am looking now for more on it. I am sure that its still an option but since its a low cost solution they dont mention it often. Maybe Ken Roach will see this and tell us more.
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	operaghost - (2 posts)	Feb-14-02, 00:50 AM (EST)
	5. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
	I think you are talking about the Online versions of 6200. With 6200 you could choose from an Online/Offline version for development and "run-time" or a Online "run-time" only version which OEMs often supplied so end users could make online edits or view the logic. It was less money than the full blown version of 6200. Although today I think the difference is pretty minimal as they want everyone off of 6200 and into RSLogix. I do not see an online only version of RSLogix5/500 available. OG
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	TimothyMoulder - (59 posts)	Feb-14-02, 05:52 AM (EST)
	6. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
	As for RSLogix versions, don't forget the Starter, Professional, Developer, Free-Agent, and First-Draft-Pick versions of each of the aforementioned! Miniscule increases in functionality at monumental increases of price. Now that's efficiency! Secondly, it's not just the software you have to consider when doing on-line editing. For instance, you cannnot OL-edit with a Micrologix, although you can change timer setpoints and monitor the execution. Go figure. TM
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	Ray Kissane - (14 posts)	Feb-14-02, 12:06 PM (EST)
	7. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
	As I have been told by my distributor and from what I have experenced, the starter edition will let you monitor online but changes must be made offline and then uploaded. Professional will allow on line edits. I have only used the starter because of the big price differnce I did not feel it was worth the cost to be able to do on line edits. If someone knows how to do it in the starter edition please explain how to enable this function. Ray Kissane
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	Ken Roach - (44 posts)	Feb-14-02, 01:55 PM (EST)
	9. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
	Ray, are you using a 5/02 or MicroLogix controller? Starter Edition certainly should allow online edits on controllers that support online editing. RSI keeps on adding functionality to the Starter Edition that wasn't there before; in previous versions, for example, you didn't have an online cross-reference or the ability to connect over DH+. I'll have to install a copy of Starter to find out for myself and answer some of the specifics on this thread !
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	Ken Roach - (44 posts)	Feb-15-02, 08:22 PM (EST)
	12. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
	Well, knock me over with a feather. I was always under the impression that RSLogix 500 Starter did allow online editing, as that wasn't one of the features that was in the Starter/Standard comparison graph. I'm online right now over Ethernet to an SLC-5/05 with RSLogix 500 Starter, and sure enough, no online editing. That does makes sense that Starter version would be enough for MicroLogix users, because the platform doesn't support online editing in the first place. I always loaded Standard, because my software update disks come with both. Thanks, Alan and Ray, for setting me straight !
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	Eddie Willers - (2 posts)	Feb-14-02, 12:10 PM (EST)
	8. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
	Only the SLC-500 controllers based upon the "Enhanced SLC" platform support online editing. This includes the SLC-5/03, 5/04, and 5/05. All SLC controllers based upon the original processing engine do not support online editing, including the fixed SLCs, the 5/01 and 5/02 modular SLCs, and the MicroLogix 1000, 1200, and 1500. Online editing isn't as simple as it first appears; it requires some tricky memory management. This may be one of the reasons our small friends at Koyo simply stop the controller, recompile it's program, and restart the controller. Fine when you're running a carwash, not as funny on a paper machine.
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	operaghost - (2 posts)	Feb-14-02, 08:39 PM (EST)
	10. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
	LAST EDITED ON Feb-14-02 AT 08:52 PM (EST) >All SLC controllers based upon the >original processing engine do not >support online editing, including the >fixed SLCs, the 5/01 and >5/02 modular SLCs, and the >MicroLogix 1000, 1200, and 1500. I might be stepping in it here, but don't the Micro1200 and the Micro1500 support online editing. Isn't it just the Micro1000 and the 5/01 and 5/02 (and the old fixed units) that do not support online editing. I could be mistaken but I am thinking that I have done online editing with the 1200 & 1500. that's why they have the mode selector switch (Prog-Remote-Run). OG
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	Alan Case - (5 posts)	Feb-15-02, 03:06 AM (EST)
	11. "RE: on line programming RSLOGIX 500"
	As far as I know and I have sat in front of both the 1200 and 1500 micrologix for too long, you can't do on line edits. You can change presets of timers and other minor tasks but it will not allow you to add rungs or elements to a rung. (Please tell me I am wrong because it would save me a lot of heartache) Ken: The starter edition to my knowledge also will not allow on line edits to any processor, (this was correct at version 5.00) whereas the standard edition will allow online edits to 5/03, 5/04 and 5/05 processors. There is also now a professional version which does not have any more functionality as per online editing and as far as I can see the main reason to buy it would be for the bundled software that usually comes with it. (at present in oz, both RSNetworks and RSemulate) The pro version does support VBA but I havent found a real use for it yet. It seems it is only there to automate the programming interface. Regards to all here, even those that don't like AB. Alan Case
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